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Monday, July 30, 2007

It’s Dollman Monday!

Well, I’m back from the San Diego Comic Con. Did you miss me? It was great meeting a number of passionate Arf fans including Mr. Matt Groening, who is going to do some art for the next volume of Arf! Yes, yes, details soon in an exciting announcement. Clues: it will involve a number of top cartoonists and it will be Gross–can you guess?). Mitch O’Connell is another artist I was thrilled to meet and talk with about his painting of Walt Kelly for the next Arf.

I enjoyed meeting Arf fans and Arf artists, picking up an amazing piece of original 1944 art that’s going to see print in a future Arf, seeing Pete’s breathtaking Gasoline Alley book, treated to meals by Bud Plant, Anne Hutchinson, Dean and Barbara Yeagle, Bill Leach, etc.

But, really, the con is so little about comics –there’s apparently even talk of changing the name of the convention. And the stuff the con is 90% about (film premiers, etc.) mostly disgusts me.  Why doesn’t someone start a COMICS con in a hotel at the same time. Or at a different place and time. NYC con is just a San Diego wanna be, so I don’t have much hope there. What do you think of the idea of an alternative convention? I heard the Sun Dance film festival has become all commercial and there is now a Slam Dance Film Festival that happens at the same time. What are your thoughts?

 Anyway, more on San Diego later, but for now it’s Doll Man Monday.The sexual implications of this Doll Man cover just simply astound me and I just don’t know where to begin.  Or is it just me?!?!

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C. Yoe (in the funny papers)

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9 Responses to “It’s Dollman Monday!”

  1. Mark Clegg Says:

    How about Wonder-Con; but since it is run by the same people as San Diego, how about Super-Con?

  2. craig yoe Says:

    i’ll be honest. i don’t know anything about wondercon or supercon. are they COMICS cons? do they forbid t-shirts. toys, swords, video games, tv and movie memorbilia and promotion, playboy bunnies? do they ban costumes? do they have intelligent talks about comics? do they have only cartoonists as panelists? do they have art displays of original comic art? do they have displays of historical material?

  3. Dancin' Dave Says:

    I’ve never been to San Diego. Always wanted to go someday. Now it sounds like I missed my chance! I long for the old New York City conventions on July 4th. Those were the days.

  4. Mark Clegg Says:

    Wonder Con is held in San Francisco and has some of the media promotions you rail against, but it is still primarially a COMICS convention.

    Super-Con has relocated to San Jose for the foresee-able future, and has a strong original art bent, and is still almost exclusively a COMICS convention, even thjough a GO-GO member was a major guest at the last one.

    –Mark Clegg

  5. David Scroggy Says:

    I am sure that a toon lovers get-together would be nice.

    Without the support of some aspect of commerciality to create revenue (a dealer’s room comes to mind), it would be an expensive conference for attendees. Maybe something modeled on the World Fantasy Convention would work- attendance limited to 500 (mostly pros), nice hotel venue. But I bet it wouldn’t be cheap to attend.

    Although Craig and I have already had this conversation, we should note that San Diego was NEVER just about comics. I have the program book from the first convention, and films and animation are given equal billing.

    There was always an ongoing film program, and the convention even in its early days had guests like Frank Capra, George Pal, Ray Harryhausen, tv writer Stanley Ralph Ross, Ralph Bakshi and many others who were not cartoonists.

    The same with SF/fantasy authors. Guests included Ray Bradbury and Theodore Sturgeon practically every year, as well as Heinlein, Fritz Lieber, and all the rest.

    So to say that it used to be all comics and got hijacked somehow by Hollywood is a little bit inaccurate. Their presence is certainly overwhelming, but the stated purpose of the event since I’ve been going (1975) was always “a celebration of the popular arts”.

    Besides, from my observations this year, which Spurgeon seems to echo on Comics Reporter, there were better-than-usual attendance at comics-related panels and programs, and dealers in old comics seemed generally happy with their sales.

    Steven Grant, in his post-con column on Comic Book Resources, makes a perceptive observation that the Con exposed thousands of casual attendees to the best in comics, and should have resulted in lots of new readers even if only one in ten of these folks follows up after the show.

    That doesn’t mean that there shouldn’t be a more specialized and focused event. It would be fun.

    But it also doesn’t mean that Comic-Con’s evolution is a bad thing.

  6. Craig Yoe Says:

    thanks, dave for your thoughts. you’ve known me for a LONG time–the longest of any friend of mine–and you know that i’m a “dreamer”.

    yeah, i know that, from the beginning, San Diego hasn’t just been just about comics. we agree that it has “evolved”. so, i’m just saying i wish it would have evolved much more–okay, totally–to it’s comics side. and i wish it would have evolved to it’s namesake. it’s to the point, now, that some Hollywood folks are saying it should change it’s name. BTW i wouldn’t mind, at all, a dealers room in the comics convention i dream about. but, in my dreams there’s no ridiculous prices. no plastic bags or if there was you could look into the bags because the comics wouldn;t be fetish items or soome number to complete a run. you could look at then to decide if you like the art or story and base your purchase on that. there would, however, for surebe plenty of dark horse statues, if you’re wondering, dave! hey, it’s MY dream. there are less and less back issue dealers at san diego every year. i’m told that they can’t afford the booth space. are there other factors like ebay, sure!

    but all said, i wish there was a pure COMICS convention. lots of comic book orientation, plenty of comic strips focus, panels about panel/gag cartoons, presentations about genius forgotten cartoonists, displays of great vintage original comic art, you know, an ARF comics convention!

  7. Craig Yoe Says:

    thanks, mark. does super con have OLD original art, or am i dreaming again?

  8. Bud Plant Says:

    Just got caught up on the thread about San Diego-Comic Con. Dave Scroggy is quite correct…since the beginning, SDCC has been about more than comics. So were all the early comic cons that I started going to in 1969. The “Southwest” shows in Oklahoma, Dallas and Houston were MUCH bigger than the first few San Diego shows, and a many fans were what we called “old timers,” meaning over 30 or so…gulp. They’d often put together the shows themselves, run serials from the 1940s, old Fleisher cartoons (before VHS came along), early westerns with Roy Rogers, Tom Mix, Bob Steele, etc. Kirk Alyn (Superman) used to be a regular at many of the early shows.

    The Hollywood presence in San Diego IS overwhelming, but I agree that it’s been good for comics in general in getting more recognition. But now that WE are the old-timers, there’s a lot of pop culture that we aren’t so interested in. My big fun in San Diego, like Craig’s, is to scout around for old comics and art, in between trying to be around my booth as much as possible. My business needs those big crowds to pay the overhead, We hope always to find lots of new customers. But the smaller comic book dealers–and probably other specialty sellers–are slowly being edged. Booth space gets more expensive and the show is just more of a hassle, to book hotel rooms, to find parking, to get a booth location next to compatible exhibitors, etc. Each year a couple more comics dealers who are dropping out.

    On the other hand, many of the smaller conventions around the country are still very comics-oriented. Wonder Con in San Francisco attracts at least as many comic dealers (it seems to me) as San Diego, plus some cool smaller dealers no longer seen in San Diego. There are still more dealers at Wonder Con than I have time to cover. My friend Michelle Nolan, who is a hard-core convention-goer, reports that Chicago’s show is very much a throwback to the old comic book conventions, with lots of cool stuff to find. Also, the two pulp conventions in the midwest are another throwback, concentrating entirely on pulps (and attracting an older audience like Michelle).

    I haven’t done one of these in a long time, just as I haven’t done a show back east for several years. I can’t speak directly to them. Super Con in San Jose is put on by a good friend, Steve Wyatt, who’s as hard-core a comics fan/dealer as they come. He loves comics and artwork, so Super Con is going to have that slant to it.

    An aside to Craig…Dollmans are coming, I promise!

    Bud Plant

  9. Retro Says:

    I love anything vintage, especially old toys and cars.

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